Episode 48

When Chaos Hits, What’s Your Plan B?

Most businesses won’t survive their next big disruption. Not because the crisis is too big, but because their business continuity plan (BCP) was either half-baked or never tested.

Maartje van Krieken makes the case for recovery planning that actually works. What would happen if your leadership team was unreachable? If your systems went down? If your staff didn’t know who had authority to make decisions?

The stats are rough. Nearly 95% of companies without a recovery plan after a major data breach go out of business within a year. And yet, most organizations either don’t have a documented BCP, or haven’t updated it in years.

Maartje walks through what a good BCP needs to cover: not just cybersecurity or data recovery, but business-wide disruptions, everything from crisis communication and staffing protocols to vendor continuity and decision-making chains. She shares the story of Southwest Airlines’ infamous collapse in December 2022 as a clear example of what happens when those systems aren’t in place.

What kind of support would your team need in the first 24 hours of a crisis? Have you ever talked through worst-case scenarios with every department in the room? Maartje doesn’t just focus on what belongs in the plan. She explains why the process of building it, the conversations, the scenario planning, the connections made across teams, is where so much of the real value lives.

This episode is part practical breakdown, part wake-up call. If your current plan lives in a drawer or hasn’t been updated since before hybrid work was a thing, now’s the time to rethink it.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 Why Most Businesses Fail Without a Continuity Plan  

02:55 Southwest Airlines Case Study: A Failure to Plan for Failure  

05:06 What Every Business Continuity Plan Should Include  

08:40 Crisis Communication and Emergency Response Protocols  

11:09 Vendor Risk and Supply Chain Continuity  

13:38 Overlooked Elements That Make or Break a BCP  

18:03 Building an Agile Crisis Response Team  

20:00 Scenario Gamification for Better Recovery Planning  

22:17 Pre-Investments That Accelerate Crisis Response  

Links

Connect with Maartje van Krieken:

https://www.thechaosgamesconsulting.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/maartje/

https://maartjeturnschaosaround.substack.com/

Host Maartje van Krieken is a crisis strategist and decision-making expert who thrives in high-stakes business environments. Combining disaster management training, hands-on experience in global industries, and leadership skills honed as a seasoned sailor, she helps businesses navigate chaos with precision. Whether tackling transformation, scaling challenges, or leadership bottlenecks, Maartje delivers actionable insights to turn turbulence into traction. 


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Maartje van Krieken

Maartje van Krieken is a crisis strategist, executive consultant, and your at host of The Business Emergency Room podcast, where growing businesses go when things get messy. With a career that began in frontier oil and gas and spanned war zones, boardrooms, and billion-dollar pivots, Maartje has spent over two decades helping organizations steer through chaos and come out stronger.
Now through her consulting firm, The Chaos Games, Maartje works with medium-sized businesses, especially those scaling rapidly or navigating uncertainty, to diagnose breakdowns in leadership, collaboration, and decision-making before they become business emergencies. Her signature approach blends practical triage, people-first strategy, and blunt Dutch honesty to help teams realign fast.

​The Business Emergency Room delivers high-impact insights for business leaders, board members, and investors who are tired of the symptoms, disconnection, friction, paralysis, and want the tools to fix what’s really going wrong. Maartje’s episodes cut through fluff with stories, frameworks, and metaphors that turn even the most complex chaos into something leaders can act on.
Maartje is based in New Orleans and speaks regularly on navigating organizational storms, building business resilience, and turning reactive firefighting into proactive leadership. Whether you’re scaling a business, running a team, or dealing with dysfunction, The Business Emergency Room is the place to find straight talk and smarter tools.